We have new frontrunners this time around. Huntsman is not leading the race but he’s in it this time. Mitt Romney has a commanding lead. Then there is Ron Paul will he breakaway from the pack.
Newt seems to be discounted goods these days but he can make a comeback or surge again in the polls. When the pacs get done with Mitt who will be the last man standing?
Tonight’s winner: Romney; Huntsman; Paul
The reporting precincts this far have a 3-way tie. It may not hold and somebody will be declared a winner. I can’t help but predict a three-way tie that is statistically tied, meaning within one or two points.
I am not surprised that Saint Rumi or Rick Santorum has surged in the polls. In a way he the Obama conservative for the GOP. I mean except for losing many of his races he is about as inexperienced as Obama was when he ran for office.
Santorum may not be a winner and if he’s not a winner at heart then that’s a problem. He can come out of his losing doldrums by winning or placing second in the next three contests. Of course it’s winner take all in South Carolina.
If Rick Perry weren’t so, Texan, he would be surging in the polls too. Perry surged before he even opened his mouth. Just by getting in the race because the GOPers were so anxious for the “not-Romney” candidate they latched onto Perry. Now that he has opened his mouth the crowds have gone away.
Top tier: Mitt Romney; Rick Santorum; Ron Paul is what it looks like now. Who will pull ahead of the pack of contenders (my word) ? Who knows?
- Iowa Poll Shows Paul-Romney-Santorum Dead Heat (huffingtonpost.com)
- Jon-Christopher Bua: The Iowa Test: State of Play (huffingtonpost.co.uk)
- Iowa Caucus the big day approaches for GOP, predictions (examiner.com)
- Who wins Iowa on Tuesday Jan 3rd? (heloise8.wordpress.com)
No one was able to knock Newt off his rhetorical perch. He sits there firmly and did what he had to do. He parrys and he punches back when he was confronted with the 1.6 million dollars he has earned from Fannie Mae and Freddie. He made the right point that Dodd and Frank were sitting in the House, as elected officials when they cleaned the housing clock and set the meltdown timer on its ultimate date with a 2008 destiny.
I think Ron Paul came in as a close second with his answers. Everyone was careful but not safe playing. The answers to questions that ranged from foreign policy to illegal alien verification were well-thought, and no major stumbles like the 10K bet.
But really even Santorum and Perry did themselves a lot of good before the Iowa voting in January. What about Romney who leads hot on the heels of Newt? He was steady eddy and also provided a good debate.
Bachman she just does not do anything for me. She was not bad and I don’t pan her performance but as a congress person she is just out of her league. I don’t think she’s a Sarah Palin. I think Palin in many ways is stronger and more magnetic. Anyway, has a person from congress ever won the presidency? I don’t think so.
Anyway Newt won the night–again.
- Republican Debate: GOP Presidential Candidates Face Off Ahead Of 2012 Iowa Caucus (LIVE UPDATES) (huffingtonpost.com)
- Can Newt Gingrich cement his place at the top of the GOP race during tonight’s Iowa debate? (100gf.wordpress.com)
- Washington Wire to Live Blog GOP Debate (blogs.wsj.com)
I think he just needs a new hair piece oh wait that is his hair. He did a lousy job of spinning his backout.
Trump, who considered a Republican presidential bid earlier this year, said he will not moderate the event to avoid a conflict of interest stemming from a potential independent presidential bid.
The reasons that Trump gave made no sense he said he needed to keep his options open so he could run as an independent.
- Trump cancels his own debate; whither Eason Jordan? (michellemalkin.com)
- Donald Trump-hosted Republican “debate” now has TWO candidates (warmsouthernbreeze.wordpress.com)
Yes, I just decided to break early for the incumbent. I know that’s funny but Heloise get’s a lot of traction and readers and hell what I am seeing out there in the GOP field only makes me laugh I mean LOL. So, despite some of Obama’s decisions, the economy and my own misgivings about his ability to grow jobs; his near-eclipse of black people on his radar; his railroading the Obamacare through Congress, which I might end up benefitting from–it’s Barack Obama for president.
I think we need to change the constitution so that it’s a 5-year term one time and maybe that will take some of the dirty money out of politics.
I think seriously that Newt Gingrich will get the nod as I said before mostly because he will prove to be the most-least-conservative and objectionable. I mean if they gave it to Maverick Cain they will give the nomination to ANYBODY!
After I predicted a blockbuster win during 3 debates ago before old Gingrich surged I was actually hesitant to write that headline. Who won the debate and I declared gingrich winner. He also fulfills most of my points about the perfect candidate. Huntsman is also a Mormon and he is struggling.
The problem with romney is that he is too rich and in the wrong religion and his kids could in future constitute a political Mormon dynasty. Too many kids. Too much money. So I give it to Gingrich.
The second half of the debate was hot as in Mexcican chili peppers. In case you missed it here’s a transcript of the that whole thing from CNN: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/22/live-blog-cnn-republican-national-security-debate/?hpt=hp_t1
At least Newt did tell the truth about Regan for once. He said when the act was signed that Regan guessed about 3K illegals would take this amesty. WRONG about 3 million illegals showed up for their damn papers. This time it could be 33 million showing up for papers with five babies in tow.
I was able to watch most of it and again, Newt knocked it out of the park with his answers, verve, and poise. I don’t agree on everything he says but boy does he say it well. After all he holds a Ph.D. in history and that’s my hobby. I would have to give the debate to Newt.
Mitt did an outstanding job a real debate and real firm with his answers except that people don’t want him because he is not what he seems to be.
The subject was Foreign policy and how America holds up the light to the rest of the world and what our standing in the world. Since it was GOP folks they were all sweetness and light when it came to the role of US as overlord to the globe.
Not Ron Paul. He was duking it out with not on my freedom watch you don’t. I mean he never, never once shifted, flip flopped or came across as anyone who stood his ground in terms of there is no way we need to send in any damn body any damn where especially to Israel.
That country already has our money and he said they can take care of themselves. Herman the Cain was really weak on this all he he could come up with was that after studying the position that Israel took then we would support them in their plan. He kept reiterating that one.
Ron Huntsman thought that Afghanistan was waiting for the Chinese to come in and make war and then have a strategic base. He seems to be a real hawk.
Everyone was really good. Rick was okay on FP don’t recall what he said much but he did not make any poly gaffes this time. No gaffes that I heard.
For my sense I think that the career politician like Newt does scare me except one thing he said about being able to work out both sides of an deal. And Rick touted how he worked daily with his staff. He did not just throw them to the wolves and shut the door like Obama did with this super committee which was bound to fail.
I am shopping the stock market for the next few months highs and lows and buying deals because nine months from now I predict near 13,000. That may be optimistic. But not sure who will win the election.
- GOP presidential debate in Washington – live (guardian.co.uk)
- Five New Things To Look For In Tonight’s National Security Debate (businessinsider.com)
The former Godfather’s Pizza CEO attracts 30 percent support from Republican voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is in second place with 23 percent. Cain gets the most support from women, 33 percent, and has a marginal lead over Romney among men, 27 percent to 25 percent. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is the only other contender to score in double digits, placing a distant third with 10 percent of the vote. Texas Gov. Rick Perry gets 8 percent, and his fellow Texan, Rep. Ron Paul, receives 7 percent. None of the remaining candidates polls above 4 percent. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/11/02/cain_leads_gop_field_in_national_poll.html
- The GOP Race Really Just Has One National Frontrunner Now (businessinsider.com)
- Polling bounce for Obama? (hotair.com)
Tonight’s GOP debate continued with illegal immigration. And Anderson went there to the 14th amendment that is misused to give illegals the anchor law I call it. That is what the 14th amendment has become. So I say we need to repeal the anchor law which is in turn the 14th amendment. That is one thing that Pat Buchanan points out in his new book. Heloise has been saying it now boldly online for five years at least.
Rick and Romney went at it on illegal immigration and each other tonight. Rick attacked Romney on his illegal lawn care hires like three times and got booed the third time…and then Mitt hit back with telling Rick to let me finish because they were talking over each other for seconds and Rick was getting really mad.
They both argued and at least three times Mitt was attacked by his other debaters. Santorum attacked Mitt on his health care in Mass and then Mitt attacked Rick on his magnet of tuition for illegals. Then the fact that Texas has more illegals coming into the state than any other state such as Florida and California. They all came to Texas because it is really easy here for them.
What about Cain’s plan to build a fence that will electrocute illegals who touch it? He said he was kidding but I think he was on to something along the lines of a moat with alligators. That will keep em out or will they make alligator tacos?
Michelle said that she will enforce English as the official language of the country. We have no official language in this country. Can you believe that?
Do we love legal immigrants? I don’t think so. The audience applauded but do they really mean it? Turn off the magnets like tuition beaks and legal license to NOT drive and not checking on illegals with e verify which they do not do. Employers don’t give a crap about who is here. Mitt said that illegals are up 60% in the past ten years. Hell yes, you can see it clearly here.
People are booing when Rick brought up Mitt’s illegals…again. A Mexican asked what they were going to do to get latino vote and that they are not all illegals. But if you dig deeply you will see that for every legal immigrant or born here Mexican that family has at least one illegal in their life as a relative or close friend that they are in turn helping.
Are the laws anti latino or are they anti illegal? We have laws that say we must educate the illegals along with regular kids. And if you have been in any public school here lately where it is over 50% mexican you won’t see too many white kids unless the school is in an all white enclave.
Huntsman was not in the debate.
Rick keeps sounding like a broken record. He is not debating he is repeating his own talking points. That knocks him out because he did not come up with one original thought or word. But he was the attack dog tonight.
Mitt Romney had to defend his record because he had a target on his back. Santorum just needs to shut up because he is the son of immigrants from Italy. Ron Paul talked about the border and latino vote but said we do not have the resources to keep our border safe and clean. No one ever mentions how filty and nasty the border has become in the last decade.
Newt gave the best answers hands down. In a way I think that Newt Gingrich won even though he has been coasting along in this debate and in the polls at a low percentage poll. He is the adult in the room at least with the debate and this cycle.
I think Newt won the debate with his wise comments and rejoinders.
Finally, there was religion talk. They all sounded like pastors come to meeting and talking about faith and that was probably good stuff especially for those Christians who took a break from online porn sites or watching pornography. Let’s get real Christians have as many problems as the rest of the non faithful. Let’s cut the crap and get the game on with the GOP. Hope they won’t waste any more time defending Mormonism or any other ISM. Other than Newt who won? That’s tough maybe Cain did because he stood his ground. Or maybe it was a true draw, no because Rick Perry was all bluster and not enough innovation.
- Republican Debate: 25 Things To Look For Tonight (mediaite.com)
- Holy God, There’s Another Republican Debate Tonight? (slog.thestranger.com)
- Tonight’s GOP Debate: Cain’s Test, Another Chance for Perry (swampland.time.com)
In a heated exchange last night the candidates and contenders slugged it out on national televised debate. It was pretty good. We here in Texas really don’t see Rick Perry as the contender in him as governor but he looks pretty good as presidential timber. I wonder how that’s gonna play out.
He seems to have way more personality than Romney and Pawlenty That’s for sure. But could the actual illegal thing hurt Perry in a national situation? He could claim that it’s the federal job and it is. But hell they love them damn elegals so that they can harp on not raising taxes soak the poor with more poor from down south. Way to go leadership. Anyway the debate was okay and a little fiesty.
- Rick Perry Running For President In 2012 (huffingtonpost.com)
- Spokesman: Gov. Rick Perry running for president (sfgate.com)
- Watch to Watch for in Tonight’s GOP Debate in Iowa (swampland.time.com)
- Iowa GOP debate: Winners and Losers (cbsnews.com)